If you want all Magpul furniture, BUIs. I have the Saint Victor & The Saint pistol 9.5 Years ago, uncle Sam showed me how to shoot first an M1, then the M14, then the AR, but because of the shortage, Ive gone from a .30 to a 223/556, then to a .22 [rimfire]. I had just sold my Springfield M1 Garand and wanted a good home defense gun. And for the store owners that tried to defend their stores with firearms, they were arrested for firearms violations. Upon getting it home I found it to be steel case. I've fired a couple of Ruger and S&W AR rifles and thought they were good. However, I took off both rear sights on the guns, and replaced them with a detachable carry hand rear sight. This feels different from the last scare after obama was elected. Took it to the range Sunday. M-lock freefloat rail, and a really nice trigger. They seem to make pretty good stuff. There are a lot of good choices in the Ruger price range, so with the Ruger being American made, and they have excellent customer service, I chose the AR 556. Springfield been in more wars and gun made and won civilwar with a Springfield ha true best out there ask.ml fans, Bs saintsbeter then dd all day lone look at finsh both millspec saints build better 2000 for dd ha a joke saint is better geeenmoutain make s colt bcm bbr to button shoots twice as good as dd check witch is weak whem.made go saint up against the biggest out there and beats most as well. Im just an individual that reloads and casts about 20 calibers for myself and family. Item Number: STV975556B-SBA3. Thats a huge help! There is too much brass cased ammo available to bother with steel cased ammo. It's as good as any high end out there why look a al it has going Springfield saint yes civilwar was Springfield years in business top notch finsh is better dd or colts yrs it's the deal. at STILL a The narrative is going to be, ALL Conservatives are crazy conspiracy nuts. My conjecture based on looking in the case: I carelessly let a couple of drops of sweat fall into the case, while I was reloading. When it came to the Ruger, I like that it is a basic no-frills AR carbine, and it felt great in my hands, and when I shouldered it. And by the time your done youll have nothing but rocks in your pocket if you keep her in the fun mode. Very reliable weapon. trigger but made with better fitting and tolerances for a 5 pound Crisp pull. I am fairly new to the gun world as I just moved from CA to AZ with only a few guns that were handed down to me from my grandfather, so when I moved to AZ I went a bit crazy buying a new gun each moth for the past three months. The Saint seriesevery variation in the lineuphas engineering ideas and specific parts incorporated to ramp up these guns to what we, custom builders, have been incorporating for years now. All the spring field crew puts in them at no extra cost lkndd over priced by 800 plus and other it's a market gam e out there u have a ar15 with say upper lower Al same cut 7075 only the finish is diff from company's most or all same thing from colt DD fb etc only a org 6920 le made in full auto line by colt is real tcp mitlary spec that makes it a gem new colts all parts guns Cr in serial number is a 1000 range gun not a org made colt is SW Ruger dumps or any put together witch is fine for a entry level saint is a step ahead of that game my beleave. Keep in mind, $739 is a recommended retail price from the manufacturers. I was very happy to find it for sale. Lexi Olson is currently a full-time college student, range worker, and gun nerd. In 2017 I brought a basic Saint and OH MY. SAINT Victor .308 Features. Its a good-enough set of flip-style irons, 1/2 MOA adjustable; simple, sturdy. Spend the rest on ammo, sling, training and optic. I took it out and fired it in a Glock 19, Glock 22 with a 9mm conversion barrel and a Beretta 96 with a 92 conversion barrel. Both guns have a barrel that is slightly over 16-inches long and have a 1:8 twist, so they can handle some heavy bullet weights. A One-Time Donation (You choose the amount): A $5 Dollar bill, a 5 Euro bill, a few Pre-1965 silver dimes, or a booklet of Forever U.S. postage stamps sent in the mail also works! The SR556 (and other piston ARs) were a solution in search of a problem. So my first impression is HELL YES! We closed out the gun and ammo corner in our trading post in December ,dropped the license , as of 1 January , sold over a million rounds of ammo in one week ,two weeks to sell out over 200 bang sticks ,and no we didnt gouge the prices ,,,could have sold for much more but wanted it all out there in folks hands ,,wish we had had more of the CMMG 22 lr conversion , I am not in any way saying anything about Springfield, the company, here, but the legacy Springfield which won wars, a government owned and operated Springfield, has absolutely no relationship today's Springfield, a private company which purchased the right to use the name. This variant goes for about $600 from sportsman's outdoor superstore. Handguns; Rifles; Shotguns; Parts; . Second round, exactly the same thing. When I tried the G22 again, and with skills gained, really liked the G22 (which SIL kept) for accuracy and magazine capacity. Here is what I did: I loaded-up three 30-round magazines for each gun, and one at a time, I emptied those mags as fast as I could pull the trigger just making sure the guns had no malfunctions. Our mail forwarding address is: James Wesley, Rawles By this time, I assume most preppers already have what they need. Welcome to the forum, shame your first post has to be a problem with the Saint. Just another comment not related to the above article. The Ruger was matching the Springfield in this respect with this ammo. Now, I did the rapid-fire test with one gun, and then immediately followed it with the accuracy testing, while the barrel was hot. I would chose it again. The Ruger comes with a polymer rear sight, and the Springfield has a metal rear sight much more robust if you ask me. I was wrong! All good. The Ruger retails for $799 however, I saw one distributor selling them for $850 again, this was a distributor, selling to FFL dealers. Components are definitely the issue. You get what you pay for in firearms, we all know that. Some manufacturers will make a little unique change or two to their gun in order to make it a super gun and then charge too much. There is a prayer or saying out there that goes something like this. For those who care less about the numbers and more about the overall review, Ill sum up the key points you should know before possibly purchasing a Saint. - Frances Bacon When the pins backed out it caused it to shoot full auto for the rest of the mag. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Put your own together. At least taking a few trips to the gun store to hold the gun, feel the bolt, and test the trigger will ensure a worthwhile purchase. For the price of each of them and the quality of parts and reliability all considered. A mid-length design moves the carbine (16-in. I think I might just trash the PMAG that came with the gun. Shopping with us is absolutely safe - you never have to worry about credit card safety when shopping here Share your latest AR build or photos from the range with #RangeDayFriday for a chance to win a new firearm! It really comes down to how much you want to spend when youre buying a weapon. I read an article about it a month or two ago but I can't remember now. I saw a very nice Colt AR barrel destroyed with s steel cased squib .223 Wolf round. So I walked into the store selling the M&P five minutes after the last one sold. So I'm looking to get an AR15 and have come across 2 main guns that I've been considering, the Ruger AR-556 MPR and the Springfield Saint Victor. And, to be sure, both of these ARs are the basic entry-level ARs being offered by these two fine companies. & Whats your budget you want to stay in and are you against buying online, i know most ffls will help with the process for it. I added some things to it nothing great. The gun will shoot just fine. Another nice touch on the Springfield Saint is that, like that URG-I, the gas block is pinned in place, not just affixed with set screws. I bought a Ruger AR556 and am very pleased with it. That rifle was the SR-556, and to say it was a big success would be quite an understatement. Specifications: Springfield Armory SAINT Victor B5 5.56mm NATO The Springfield Armory SAINT Victor B5 rifle is very similar to most of the previous offerings through the SAINT Victor line of firearms. Reloads can be loaded by anyone. Im curious to hear your thoughts, or anyone else. I hate calling it 'The Saint" and have only been saying its my new AR so I don't sound like a fool. But personally buy an complete lower from . Of course, you can trick these ARs out to suit your tastes, however the only change I made was replacing the rear sights on both guns in my humble opinion, both are combat-ready right out of the box. Anyone own a BCM ? You'll pay a bit more for the .30-caliber - around $50 more - with the new pistol's MSRP $949. Why they would shorten this channel and charging handle, no one seems to know, including the guy I talked to from Springfield. Doing my own calculations, Springfield sure doesnt seem to be artificially running up the price to offer the higher-cost features (like some factory custom shops seem to do). The handle for this model, where did you find it at? To Charles K ..I stocked up on steel case 9mm during obama yearsI have shot it in glocks M &Ps,hi powers,uzi, signever a problem at all with any..some say not good for the gunsbut now there is no choice and I am glad to have it way better than nothing. These just felt so good in my hands and shot so accurately, I just had to get a set! Glock guarantees any factory produced ammo for use in their guns. The closing stages of 2017 have witnessed a dramatic expansion of Springfield Armory's Saint series of AR-15-style rifles and pistols. Id prefer brass over steel any day, but Ill take what I can find at this point. Their prices are not the lowest but they are more than fair for the market. The Daily Web Log for Prepared Individuals Living in Uncertain Times. The barrel is machined with a 1 turn in 7 inches rifling twist and features 1/2x28 threads on the muzzle. This is an excellent article Pat and your advice is on target. James Wesley, Rawles (JWR) is Founder and Senior Editor of SurvivalBlog, the original prepping /survival blog for when the Schumer Hits The Fan (SHTF). Some names that have entry level ARs with decent reputations, are DPMS, Stag Arms, Smith & Wesson, and if you watch to find them on sale you can get Bushmaster and Rock River for less than 800. Ruger AR-556 300 Blackout 8572. vs. Palmetto State Armory 7.5" Pistol-Length 300 Blackout 5165447855. No holds barred guide on prepping for the coming mini ice age: storage food, gardens, seeds, livestock, water systems, hunting, security, antibiotics, firearms, more. What is new about it, though, is that they got it right. Ur right it has the green mountain bbr same dam bbr as a bcm and also as a 6920le colt best of best and it's a aero upper lower sea as agsi fn armerlite colt bcm so fools get on here trashing g diff guns look at all saint has tons millspec and over to hundred years at war i.put it up against dd any da a better made is sant it's the bome. No regrets! Answer (1 of 6): Springfield doesn't make an AR. I also added a BCM Vertical Foregrip, because why not. Moyie Springs, Idaho 83845. If you can compare it with the Saint. It was tough to part with that much money for a weapon until the first trigger pull. Shot three rounds from it then tried the original PMAG- This time it set in fine. Its perfect for sporting or home defense with high reliability and some furniture and trigger upgrades that set it apart from other budget AR-15s. The extractor is destroying the casing when it fires so it has nothing to grab on to in order to extract. But, the point is, that whats there is good; its well and wisely chosen. How do define a good AR15? Have had multiple Failures to Fire with Wolf brand .40 in my Glock 22 despite what looks like a good strike. Anybody own one or have any input? There are a lot of good choices in the Ruger price range, so with the Ruger being American made, and they have excellent customer service, I chose the AR 556. Custom-designed Ruger rapid deploy rear sight seamlessly integrates on the Ruger SR-22 rifle, ar-556 , sr-556, sr-762 and any modern sporting rifle with a same-plane Picatinny rail mounting system. Colt is a little more pricey but kind of the gold standard. Trigger bbr to. The .300 BLK has a pistol-length system and the 5.56 is carbine-length. I'll do it for my second AR. Thanks Rick. Its an AR-15 made by someone else. Jul 2, 2017 ROBERT @ OKC USA [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_gYo8_DsRc"] [/URL] He who questions much learns much. The other imports Croatian pistols under an American Sounding name and has donated money to anti 2a organizations through the Illinois Gun Manufacturers association (or a similar lobbying organization). In the past week Im getting covered up with requests for ammo from people I dont even know. Further, and always near the top of my list for a carbine build, is an H-weight tungsten buffer that comes standard on a Saint. So far I have used your standard, cheap (see the trend here), FMJ ball ammo. Their drunk with power, embolden after stealing an election. Gray and Bwhntr65, Your experience and advice are sound. The Springfield loved the heavier 69-gr Matchking round, and I got a group just a tad under an inch and a half without too much trouble. First two were handguns (S&W 9mm) but my latest purchase was the Saint. I once was shooting my OWN reloads in a revolver. [ my bias here; at this late date, I would recommend getting something that fires 7.6239 even if only an outrageously expensive, worn out SKS although AKs seem to be available, but insanely expensive. I am so happy with my new AR - My only AR actually. If you want a pretty good deal, Del-Ton has some pretty reasonable kits for sale. I do admit I was a bit jealous, but a few cans of spray paint cured my jealousy. I love it. While my mom might think differently, purchasing the Saint was a great choice because of its great value and many other great features. I'm new to the AR type guns and have read a bunch on each of these. I had a squib stuck in the barrel, because only a small amount of powder worked. Recipe of the Week: Chopped Beef En Casserole, Preparedness Notes for Monday January 11, 2021. Ive put hundreds of rounds of 55 grain and 62 grain 5.5645 NATO ammo through it with no malfunctions. 1st time AR-15 owner. But with whats coming plus the non available ammo its probably not the last one to shutter operations. **** Sorry everyone. Upon first uncasing my new love, I took special attention to how durable the Saint looked and felt. You may know Springfield from their famed M1A rifles and 1911s both good signs of a quality arms company. Im sure all our readers know that we are in another ammo drought the worse one ever and I dont think we will recover from it for many years, this time around. Copyright 2023 Pew Pew Media, Inc. All rights reserved. Its just too bad people didnt buy before now. Havent used the Saint yet but Ive been drooling over it ever since I saw it. The key differences are in the B5 Systems upgrades to various pieces on the rifle. H Allen Davis Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting. I've put 500+ rounds through a Saint. I don't know about the Springfield. (, We noticed that you have previously logged in with your, Check what do you get by creating an account, Bookmark and compare your favorite firearms, You want a quality AR-15 and want to spend under $1000? She can load her own mags but apparently being her gun boy is why she married me. Springfield Saint Vs. Ruger 556 & Colt. Ive bought many Springfield armory products in the past and never been disappointed. The police are being told to stand-down in many places, and allow these people to throw rocks, bottles, and fireworks at them. Thanks for another great article Mr. Cascio. Both seem like solid platforms. It doesn't; it stands for Armalite Rifle. This thing will be going back Monday morning. The confidence you gain in yourself, your rifle, and your ability to handle a situation is more than worth the price of admission. Copyright @2023 TigerDroppings.com. I have owned and shot all different brands over the years and they all shoot pretty much the same and theyre all (as far as I know) made from 7075 T6 aluminum and except for a few differences they probably use the same CNC program. The Springfield retails for $943 and is going for a lot more than that, if you can find one at all. However, my biases might have come through in this piece, and I liked one a little bit more than the other but no matter what it is a personal preference, and you have to make up your own mind as to which gun is better for you. I cant honestly say, when it came to accuracy, one gun was better at it than the other, and I was shooting premium .223 ammo in both guns. Springfield Saint Rifle 10 RD 5.56 16" Picatinny Gas Block (Save up to 13%) Price $893.83. There are others as well. Notice the all BCM furniture on the rifle, every component is American made. Is the Saint Victor worth the extra cost? That is, to me, what separates the Saint series from the radical majority of boxed guns Ive seen on the market. Feels absolutely fantastic in the hand. I think its chrime lined. Buy Now Savage MSR15 Recon LRP No Comments on Springfield Saint vs Ruger AR-556 vs S&W M&P15 Sport II Unboxing the James River Armory M14 WATCH: Idiot Tries to Rob Car Spa with Slide Locked Back by KIMBER PEARCE Leave a Reply
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